Question:
Am I wrong to be hurt?
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2017-01-23 19:28:40 UTC
My fiancée is an engineer and makes $158K a year. We were originally planning a small wedding with a $2500 budget. After doing the math (we have five kids between the two of us that would all need to be dressed for the wedding)there was just no way I could do this for $2500 and he refused to budge on that number even a little. I found a two day cruise on Groupon, so we decided to get married by a JP then go to a nice dinner with all the kids and we will fly to Fort Lauderdale the next morning to leave on our cruise. The total cost with this will be less that $1000.00.

He gave me an engagement ring this weekend. It is so tiny! I wanted a sapphire with a diamond on each side, which is what I got, but this doesn't even look real. It looks like something that a teen would buy his girl as a promise ring. I know he ordered it online and paid about $1000.00 for it. Am I wrong to feel like that means he doesn't value us? Why didn't he put the extra money from the wedding on the ring? I really am embarrassed by it. Am I wrong to be hurt by this?
Ten answers:
Jennifer
2017-01-23 21:40:48 UTC
Who is paying for all of this? Is he footing all the expense? Are you footing it? Is it a joint thing where both of you contribute to the wedding'? IF it is just him, you are not being considerate that he has children, mortgage/rent, bills that needs to be paid for. Maybe you need to sit down with him and talk about expenses. If he is paying for everything, than he can probably only afford that right now. If you are working, why not get the size ring you want down the line?
Mamawidsom
2017-01-23 21:15:24 UTC
There is no right or wrong when it comes to feelings. You either are hurt, or you are not. What is wrong is that you are marrying a guy that you think is a cheap tightwad and with whom you don't want to or cannot have a rational conversation.



Put the breaks on the cruise and the marriage, and spend that money on pre-marital counseling. You and your fiance need to be on the same page when it comes to finances and priorities. If you aren't, this will end in divorce, and your children will be hurt too.
Dan
2017-01-23 21:12:29 UTC
Too long, didnt read. Show us your t i t s!!!!
?
2017-01-23 20:08:36 UTC
You can feel however you feel. You always have that right. That said, I don't think the wedding budget is the issue here. The issue is not seeing eye to eye on your finances, not being able to discuss those finances, and having vastly different priorities when it comes to spending. Do you have a monthly budget? Do you both manage it? With five kids, I sure as hell hope that your wedding the first time you've budgeted together.



You are combining families here. You're going to be a family of SEVEN. Dude could make $200k/year and money would still be tight. Rather than bemoaning the idea that you're not being valued, perhaps you need to think realistically about the type of lifestyle your family of seven can actually afford (particularly long term).
?
2017-01-23 19:50:53 UTC
We actually looked online and I showed him what I wanted and even asked about a ring that was $2600, he said that was do-able. Then he goes and orders something like it on amazon, but its super small.

He will tell me I can have something then he goes changes his mind. He is very frugal and I understand that. I just think because I will be wife number three for him and he has had the weddings and all the things that come with it, he doesn't realize how important it is to me. I never got any of that.

He will spend more money on gas to fill up his boat for a day ride, than he did on this ring.
SW-6
2017-01-23 19:45:12 UTC
IMO - yes and no.



YES you should be a little hurt as it would seem he is not taking this as seriously as you are in the spending - he is coming off as I don't care that I am getting ready to confirm spending the rest of my life with this person, and I am not going all out. That may suit him. But he needs to realize that this is 50-50, not just him. You are to be respected in this thing just as much as him. Maybe try to dial down on cost as much as possible, but not throw it out if it is $50 over. This is a most important part of both your lives, and deserves more thought, care, and concern than not going over budget.

NO you should not be hurt in respect to understanding his side just as you want him to understand your side. He does not have the same "WOO HOO" about this as you do it would seem and is not in a place to want more than the minimum on this.

IMO - I would take a long hard look at the character he is presenting here. He makes a nice salary, could easily it seems afford a big wedding to please his bride and show the world how much he cares, a very nice engagement ring, etc. Would he be this thrifty if say the car he has always wanted went on the auction block for an outrageous sum? Maybe he is thinking that ring is what you want and is giving it to you with all his heart, however seeing his lack of enthusiasm in sealing up a great day for you both, I wonder. I would always wonder about this one and his kind of "indifference" about the day, maybe me, maybe our union. This is him. If this comes up again, you can't say it is a shock to you. Are you ok with this? A man is going to treat you the way you let him. You don't have to be a gold digger or anything, but that is teeny tiny budget for such and important part of life. I would not only be a little miffed, I would be second thinking the whole thing if this is the man I have to ask for money to do anything and he dials it down ....

This is just how I see it, I don't know the ins and outs of your relationship so you better Think hard -

Good luck to you
BeatriceBatten
2017-01-23 19:43:37 UTC
So I'm guessing that the problem here is that he's ALWAYS been cheap, but now that you're getting married you expect him to magically change ... right?



Look. Marriage won't change a person. If he was a cheap boyfriend then he'll be a cheap fiance, and a cheap husband/father. If you're not happy with that personality trait NOW, then I suggest you bail out of the relationship.



You two need to have a frank talk about money and finances before you get married, because it's clear that you don't agree on how the household money should be spent. Sit down one day (get a babysitter and clear out your whole schedule for the day - no distractions) and make a spreadsheet or use Mint.com to paint a clear picture of your finances. Mortgage/rent, bills, savings, groceries, student loans, car loans, insurance payments, utilities, medical care, pet care, clothes and haircuts, gifts, education funds for the kids, every little thing. Then look at what's left and talk about how to spend it.



Spending $2k total on a ring and a wedding is all relative. If you have money to burn, then sure, if a larger wedding means a lot to you then talk to him about it. If you're up to your eyeballs in debt, though, then a bigger engagement ring is really not your top priority right now.



Did you have a say in your engagement ring? Did he talk to you beforehand about what style you wanted? Was the size/cost discussed? If you both had a clear discussion about what you wanted, and then he went and got something totally different ... then, yes, you have a point if you say that he's not being considerate of you (it's not about the ring itself, it's about listening to you and then dismissing your feelings). But if the ring was a surprise, or if the ring is what you wanted but you never specified you wanted a bigger size ... well, it's a gift, honey, so deal with it.



The ring is just a symbol, and a gift. It's not meant to be indicative of his feelings for you or how much he values you. If you need to put a price tag on his feelings, then maybe he's not the guy for you, or maybe you're just not mature enough for marriage. If you TRULY feel that he doesn't value you, then the ring is likely just the straw that broke the camel's back ... his actions mean MUCH more than a piece of jewelry, so if he's been dismissive and uncaring of you in other aspects of the relationship then a bigger engagement ring isn't going to solve that problem.



Is your relationship OK otherwise? People have different "love languages" - one of which is gifts and spending money. Other things include quality time together (good conversations, spending time together, making time for the family), affirmations (saying "I love you" a lot, telling you often that he appreciates your hard work in the relationship/family), acts of service (he gases up your car or fixes your electronics without being asked, comes outside to help you carry in groceries, etc.), and physical touch (hugs and kisses, physical affection).



So if your guy is helpful and kind in other areas, but just isn't a big spender or a good gift-giver, then personally I'd let it go. If he's not showering you with gifts or a big diamond ring it doesn't automatically mean that he doesn't care about you.



But, again, if your relationship is failing in other areas, then a bigger ring or a fancier wedding won't solve that problem.



Him not wanting to spend a ton of money on a wedding or jewelry (especially when you have FIVE KIDS to care for - and really, at some point in your life a fancy wedding and a big engagement ring fall lower on the list of priorities, especially in second+ marriages) isn't automatically a red flag. But if he's cheaping out on you and the kids, and instead blowing his money on selfish things or gambling or foolish investments ... then you need to ask yourself if you want to spend your life with such a person.
kyle
2017-01-23 19:35:47 UTC
Part of bieng financially responsible and smart is making a budget. That shows that your fiance is smart. Reckless spending Will send you into debt. I can see he's trying to avoid that. No you shouldn't be hurt. by making a budget on what he can afford will help you build wealth in long run.
Caroline
2017-01-23 19:34:48 UTC
I think the larger question is more important...why you both can't agree on something that both of you are involved in. It seems that in your mind you have "extra money" from the wedding to spend on a ring but in his mind, he saved $1,500 on the wedding.

This is a huge sign for you...he could be considered "cheap" or he could be considered "thrifty" or maybe he just has "different priorities" than you do.

Either way, if you're unhappy with the ring and you find it hurtful, you need to say something to him. If you can't then you've got bigger problems than a tiny ring.

PS, I don't think you're wrong to feel that way, I would likely feel the same which is why I chose my own engagement ring. And I paid for it too. So there's that option....
anonymous
2017-01-23 19:33:09 UTC
Hmm! Just get married and don't fuss


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